MINUTES of the MEETING of the RECREATION GROUNDS COMMITTEE held on
22 July 2009 in the COMMITTEE ROOM, KNEBWORTH VILLAGE HALL at
7.45 p.m.
_____________________________________________________________
Present: Mr John Hunt (Chairman), Mr John Bantick, Mrs Rosemary Pateman, Mrs Caroline Presland, Mrs Carol Smith, Mr Anthony Titmarsh and the Clerk
1. Declarations of Interest
Mr Hunt declared that he is president of the Tennis Club and Mrs Pateman declared that she is a member of the Tennis club.
2. Minutes
Proposed by Mrs Smith, seconded by Mr Bantick
RESOLVED “that the minutes of the meeting of the Recreation Grounds Committee Meeting held on 27 May 2009 are approved.”
Unanimously agreed.
3. Financial Review
Income at £851 for the quarter is in line with budget. Expenditure at £14,446 is 25% under budget due to lack of utility bills and no work on trees, fences and the pond. Two litter bins and a bench have been purchased and installed at a cost of £2,239.
4. Pavilion Maintenance
Two glazed units have been repaired. The floors are being repainted. The committee agreed to the recommendation to install a flow through water heater to supply the kitchen and two toilets. The large calorifiers would only be used for the changing rooms. Cussens & Sons are to undertake the work.
5. Youth Club
It was agreed that the Youth Club should be asked for a contribution towards the cost of the replacement glazing unit damaged by the group.
6. Provision of Drinking Fountain in the Recreation Ground
An external drinking fountain would cost into the region of £1300. The committee considered this too high especially since there is potable water available in the outside toilets. Signs are to be erected near the under 5’s play area.
7. Play Equipment
Mrs Pateman has given play equipment brochures to residents in Old Knebworth so that they can identify the type of equipment wanted by the 8-13 year olds. Some type of goal or target practise wall has been suggested.
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Proposed by Mrs Smith, seconded by Mrs Pateman and
RESOLVED that “a hot shot goal at a cost of £1355 would be purchased, if requested by Old Knebworth residents”.
Agreed.
It was also agreed that a replacement Lappet zig zag balance beam would be purchased for the Recreation Ground.
8. Benches
A quote for £2795 for four benches has been received from Playground Services. Knebworth Youth FC has been provided with the quote and asked if the club is willing to contribute, since it requested benches to be located near J1 and A2 football pitches. The clerk is to contact the club for a response.
9. Bowls & Tennis Club Lease
Mr Hunt left the room. Mr Bantick took the chair in the absence of the chairman.
Knebworth Bowls & Tennis Clubs have received the second draft of the lease. Knebworth Bowls has accepted the lease after further clarification. Knebworth Tennis Club has written with several comments. The committee discussed each point and agreed to extend the acknowledgement of the revised rent to thirty days rather than ten. It did not agree to changes of lease date, inclusion of table tennis or emphasising words within the lease.
Mr Hunt returned to the meeting.
10. HCC lease
There is no further information on the lease.
11. Any Other Business
11.1 Pavilion Usage by Youth Groups
It was confirmed that the youth groups had decided to close for the summer due to shortage of leaders during the holiday period.
11.2 Dog Fouling
Mrs Smith requested additional dog fouling signs in Lytton Fields, due to increased fouling in the area.
11.3 Land Allocations Options
Mr Bantick informed the committee that NHDC land Allocations document is on deposit until 14 September 2009. The council is to hold open sessions on August 6 and September 5, followed by a public meeting on 9 September, which can address the issues of green belt development and the proposal for the secondary school.
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11.4 Gravel, Groundsman Store
Youths are throwing the stones, around the groundsman’s store, onto the playing fields. The groundsman picks them up prior to mowing, however recently a stone was thrown up and nearly missed a baby in a pushchair. Previously road scalpings had been laid in this area which bind together. The surfacing is to be reviewed at the next meeting.
.7 Next Meeting Date
The next meeting will be held on 21 October 2009.
There being no other business the meeting closed at 9.07 p.m.
Wednesday, 22 July 2009
Monday, 13 July 2009
Planning - 13 July
MINUTES of the MEETING of the PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE held on Monday 13 July 2009 in the COMMITTTE ROOM, KNEBWORTH VILLAGE HALL
at 7.00 p.m.
_____________________________________________________________
Present: Dr Graham Fothergill (Chairman), Mr John Bantick, Mr John Hunt,
Mrs Rosemary Pateman, Ms Elisabeth Smith, Mr Robin Smith and the Clerk
Apologies: Mr Richard Haigh due to work commitments.
In Attendance: Mrs Carol Smith
Mrs Jane Gray (NHDC)
Two members of the public
1. Declaration of Interests
Mr Hunt declared that he is a social member of the Golf Club
2. Minutes
It was proposed by Dr Fothergill, seconded by Mr Smith and
RESOLVED “that the Minutes of the Meeting of the Planning and Environment Committee, held on 8 June 2009 be approved and signed.”
3. 09/01049/1HH Holly House, 8 Swangleys Lane, Knebworth
First floor gable roof front extension and gable roof to existing front projection. Alteration to design of existing roof from hipped to gable ended. Single and two storey side extension following demolition of existing side extension. Single and two storey rear extension, three pitched roof rear dormer windows. Pitched roof to existing front porch with timber support. Raise height of parapet to garage
There was come concern over the building at the front of the property.
For 4 Against 1 Abstention 1. NO OBJECTIONS
4. 09/00769/1 129 London Road, Knebworth
Single storey side extension to north west and south east elevations of existing kitchen and store. Extractor flue to rear of kitchen following removal of existing extractor flue
NO OBJECTIONS
5. 09/01003/1HH 59 Park Lane, Knebworth
Single storey side and rear extension
The committee considered the proposed extension to be out of keeping with the arts and crafts house and therefore OBJECTS to the application.
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6. 09/01131/1HH 117 Orchard Way, Knebworth
Single storey rear extension. Front porch
NO OBJECTIONS
7. 09/008822/1 Knebworth Golf Club, Deards End Lane, Knebworth
Replacement conservatory extension to clubhouse
A noise report had been undertaken which suggests that neighbours should not be affected. The committee had NO OBJECTIONS
8. 09/0023/1LB Knebworth Golf Club, Deards End Lane, Knebworth
Demolition of existing single storey rear extension and replacement conservatory extension to clubhouse
NO OBJECTIONS
9. 09/01161/1HH 46 Stevenage Road, Knebworth
Erection of detached garage
The proposed garage is located at the front of the property well forward of the building line. The garage will be visible from the road and would set a precedent. The committee therefore OBJECTS.
10. 09/01170/1HH 24 Swangleys Lane, Knebworth
Two storey rear extension
The rear extension is in the middle of a row of terraced houses and consideration was given to the impact on the neighbouring properties. For 5 Abstention 1.
NO OBJECTIONS
11. 09/1032/1 Pumping Station, Watton Road, Knebworth
UV Plant Kiosk
NO OBJECTIONS
12. Any Other Business
12.1 Wood, Park Lane
Knebworth Estate has been managing its woodland on Park Lane, which has involved felling a significant number of trees. A resident has complained that the work has gone beyond its licence and is proposing legal action.
Mrs Pateman informed the committee that the proposed work could be found on the Forestry Commission website and that woodland management can appear dramatic but is part of maintenance.
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12.2 Gun Lane
Dr Fothergill complained that notices were erected to give warning that planned work was to be undertaken on Gun Lane. Again the signs were removed and no work done. The clerk is to write to Mr Jack requesting an update on the improvements.
12.3 Odyssey
The directors of Odyssey could not make the proposed dates, but have informed the clerk that they could make a meeting in the next two weeks. The clerk is to invite the directors to the next Planning or Parish Council meeting.
12.4 Next Meeting
The next meeting will be held on 10 August 2009
There being no other business the meeting closed at 8.00 pm.
at 7.00 p.m.
_____________________________________________________________
Present: Dr Graham Fothergill (Chairman), Mr John Bantick, Mr John Hunt,
Mrs Rosemary Pateman, Ms Elisabeth Smith, Mr Robin Smith and the Clerk
Apologies: Mr Richard Haigh due to work commitments.
In Attendance: Mrs Carol Smith
Mrs Jane Gray (NHDC)
Two members of the public
1. Declaration of Interests
Mr Hunt declared that he is a social member of the Golf Club
2. Minutes
It was proposed by Dr Fothergill, seconded by Mr Smith and
RESOLVED “that the Minutes of the Meeting of the Planning and Environment Committee, held on 8 June 2009 be approved and signed.”
3. 09/01049/1HH Holly House, 8 Swangleys Lane, Knebworth
First floor gable roof front extension and gable roof to existing front projection. Alteration to design of existing roof from hipped to gable ended. Single and two storey side extension following demolition of existing side extension. Single and two storey rear extension, three pitched roof rear dormer windows. Pitched roof to existing front porch with timber support. Raise height of parapet to garage
There was come concern over the building at the front of the property.
For 4 Against 1 Abstention 1. NO OBJECTIONS
4. 09/00769/1 129 London Road, Knebworth
Single storey side extension to north west and south east elevations of existing kitchen and store. Extractor flue to rear of kitchen following removal of existing extractor flue
NO OBJECTIONS
5. 09/01003/1HH 59 Park Lane, Knebworth
Single storey side and rear extension
The committee considered the proposed extension to be out of keeping with the arts and crafts house and therefore OBJECTS to the application.
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6. 09/01131/1HH 117 Orchard Way, Knebworth
Single storey rear extension. Front porch
NO OBJECTIONS
7. 09/008822/1 Knebworth Golf Club, Deards End Lane, Knebworth
Replacement conservatory extension to clubhouse
A noise report had been undertaken which suggests that neighbours should not be affected. The committee had NO OBJECTIONS
8. 09/0023/1LB Knebworth Golf Club, Deards End Lane, Knebworth
Demolition of existing single storey rear extension and replacement conservatory extension to clubhouse
NO OBJECTIONS
9. 09/01161/1HH 46 Stevenage Road, Knebworth
Erection of detached garage
The proposed garage is located at the front of the property well forward of the building line. The garage will be visible from the road and would set a precedent. The committee therefore OBJECTS.
10. 09/01170/1HH 24 Swangleys Lane, Knebworth
Two storey rear extension
The rear extension is in the middle of a row of terraced houses and consideration was given to the impact on the neighbouring properties. For 5 Abstention 1.
NO OBJECTIONS
11. 09/1032/1 Pumping Station, Watton Road, Knebworth
UV Plant Kiosk
NO OBJECTIONS
12. Any Other Business
12.1 Wood, Park Lane
Knebworth Estate has been managing its woodland on Park Lane, which has involved felling a significant number of trees. A resident has complained that the work has gone beyond its licence and is proposing legal action.
Mrs Pateman informed the committee that the proposed work could be found on the Forestry Commission website and that woodland management can appear dramatic but is part of maintenance.
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12.2 Gun Lane
Dr Fothergill complained that notices were erected to give warning that planned work was to be undertaken on Gun Lane. Again the signs were removed and no work done. The clerk is to write to Mr Jack requesting an update on the improvements.
12.3 Odyssey
The directors of Odyssey could not make the proposed dates, but have informed the clerk that they could make a meeting in the next two weeks. The clerk is to invite the directors to the next Planning or Parish Council meeting.
12.4 Next Meeting
The next meeting will be held on 10 August 2009
There being no other business the meeting closed at 8.00 pm.
Wednesday, 8 July 2009
Parish Council - 8 July
MINUTES of the MEETING of the PARISH COUNCIL held on the
8 July 2009 in the COMMITTEEE ROOM, KNEBWORTH VILLAGE HALL
at 8.00 p.m.
_____________________________________________________________
Present: Mr John Bantick (Chairman), Dr Graham Fothergill, Mr Ian Gilmore, Mr Barry Hall, Mr John Hunt, Mrs Rosemary Pateman, Mrs Carol Smith, Ms Elisabeth Smith, Mr Robin Smith, Mr Anthony Titmarsh and the Clerk
Apologies: Mr Richard Haigh
Mrs Caroline Presland
In Attendance District Councillor Tom Brindley
Two members of the public
1. Public Participation
Mrs Pomerance asked for the Parish Council’s support in her campaign to get a secondary school in the village. The campaign started in May 2009 and with a group of 20 volunteers the group has an environmental analyst, webs site manager and treasurer on board. She felt that there is a huge problem for children finishing at Knebworth JMI, which is similar for children from surrounding villages with children being sent to Stevenage schools some distance away.
In the site appraisal Henry Cobbold has stated that eh will donate land for the benefit of village charities.. The school would be voluntary aided with a permanent endowment. To raise the fund will require 90 acres of land to provide funding for the school and Knebworth House. The school will use 30 acres, with a swimming pool and wood, and will be located behind Monread Nursing home. She is to meet Justin Donavan and Richard Thake from HCC to discuss the proposal and British Schools for the Future endorses… Two hundred houses will be built with medium to low density together with 10% affordable homes. If the state takes over the funding no houses will be required. Mrs Pomerance has spoken to Henry Cob bold and he has given a commitment for the land.
The 60 acres to be developed will generate £36M at £600,000 per acre. The school would reduce traffic through the village, with children cycling or walking to school. The current timescale is 5 years. The website is weneedaschool.org.
2. HGV Traffic, Old Knebworth Lane
Councillor Brindley, chairman of JMP, informed the Council that a resident had complained about the HGC traffic using Old Knebworth Lane. The general consensus was that it is not suitable for HGV traffic. A TRO to restrict traffic to 7.5 tonne would cost £4000. NHDC is proposing to erect signs stating it is not suitable for HGV’s at a cost of £1000., without a TRO, to try to prevent large vehicles accidentally using the Lane
There is no height restriction in Old Knebworth Lane. It was suggested that cars drive too fast on the Lane and perhaps additional signage regarding the sharp bens might be useful. Cllr Brindley felt that the signs would be overgrown and not visible. The
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alternative route for traffic would be Park Lane which would result in a higher volume of traffic through the village. The cost would be borne by NHDC and the JMP.
There was a request for HCC to improve the sight lines, footpath s and pavements for pedestrians.
Cllr Brindley requested a letter from the Parish Council stating that it had no objection to the proposed signage.
3. Approval of Parish Council Minutes
It was proposed by Mr Titmarsh, seconded by Mrs Smith and
RESOLVED “that the Minutes of the Annual Meeting of the Parish Council, held on 13 May 2009, be approved and signed.
Unanimously agreed.
4. The Council Noted the Minutes of the Committee Meetings
4.1 Minutes of the Meeting of the Recreation Grounds Committee held on 27 May 2009.
4.2 Minutes of the Meeting of the Village Hall Committee held on 10 June 2009
4.3 Minutes of the Meeting of the Finance and General Purposes Committee held on 10 June 2009
4.4 Minutes of the Meetings of the Planning and Environment Committee held on 8 June 2008
5. Inspection of Schedule of Deeds and Documents.
Mr Titmarsh reported that he had inspected the deeds and all were in order. The recreation ground has been registered and therefore 18 documents are for information only.
Proposed by Mr Smith, seconded by Mr Gilmore and
RESOLVED that “the Council should register the Village hall and King George Vth Playing Fields.”
Agreed.
6. Review of Council Regulations
Standing orders, Terms of Reference, Financial Regulations, Financial risk assessment, Internal Audit and Health and Safety play are to be reviewed by the next Parish Council meeting.
7. HCC Lease
HCC has revised the lease but Mr Piper has returned it for further revision.
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8. Registration of Land
The recreation ground has been registered however the right of access has been omitted and a footpath does not extend to the rear of the verge. The clerk has written to the Land Registry requesting amendment to the file. A response is awaited.
9. Council Stationery
Triographics had produced several version of letter heading and the Council agreed on one. The clerk is to request a slightly bolder version.
10. Village Website
The website is still being run by Mrs Weaver. The volunteer has not been able to take over yet. An interim person is to review the website with Mrs Weaver with a view to updating the information.
11. Youth Project
There was debate about the youth project giving something back to the community since it benefits from free use of the pavilion. The clerk is to contact the Youth Project to pose them with the challenge.
12. Council Bank Accounts
Telephone and online baking has been requested. Both forms of banking can now be restricted to transfers within Parish Council accounts only and not to third parties.
The Council agreed to open a ‘Knebworth Village Hall’ account to apply for a grassroots fund.
13 S106 Funding
S106 funding is being collected by NHDC but it is unclear how the funds are to be used. The topic was requested to be added to the Rural Summit agenda however it had not been included. Mr Bantick is to raise it at the summit.
14. Accounts for Payment
It was proposed by Mr Titmarsh and seconded by Mrs Smith and
RESOLVED “that the list of accounts paid during Accounts Period 2 2009/10 be approved.
Agreed.
Mr Titmarsh reported that he had agreed the monthly bank reconciliations to 31 May 2009.
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15. Any Other Urgent Business
15.1 Junior School Meeting
Mr Bantick is to attend a meeting to discuss allocation of secondary school places for children leaving Knebworth JMI..
15.2 Woolmer Green Parish Council
The chairman has been invited to celebrate the success of Woolmer Green PC in the business category of eh Village f the Year competition. He is unable to attend. Mr Hall is to go instead.
15.3 Woodland Management t Park Lane
Dr Fothergill apprised the council on the clearance being undertaken in the private wood next to Park Lane. Mrs Pateman stated that it is management t of ancient woodland; trees are cut down and coppiced.
15.4 Parking
Another parking meeting is to be held 22 July after completion of a business survey.
15.5 Picture, Knebworth Twinning Association
Mr Hall asked the council if a picture presented by Chatellion en plage could be hung in the committee room. The council gave its permission.
15.6 Next Meeting
The next meeting is to be held on Wednesday 8 October at 8.00 pm.
There being no other business the meeting closed at 10.00 p.m.
8 July 2009 in the COMMITTEEE ROOM, KNEBWORTH VILLAGE HALL
at 8.00 p.m.
_____________________________________________________________
Present: Mr John Bantick (Chairman), Dr Graham Fothergill, Mr Ian Gilmore, Mr Barry Hall, Mr John Hunt, Mrs Rosemary Pateman, Mrs Carol Smith, Ms Elisabeth Smith, Mr Robin Smith, Mr Anthony Titmarsh and the Clerk
Apologies: Mr Richard Haigh
Mrs Caroline Presland
In Attendance District Councillor Tom Brindley
Two members of the public
1. Public Participation
Mrs Pomerance asked for the Parish Council’s support in her campaign to get a secondary school in the village. The campaign started in May 2009 and with a group of 20 volunteers the group has an environmental analyst, webs site manager and treasurer on board. She felt that there is a huge problem for children finishing at Knebworth JMI, which is similar for children from surrounding villages with children being sent to Stevenage schools some distance away.
In the site appraisal Henry Cobbold has stated that eh will donate land for the benefit of village charities.. The school would be voluntary aided with a permanent endowment. To raise the fund will require 90 acres of land to provide funding for the school and Knebworth House. The school will use 30 acres, with a swimming pool and wood, and will be located behind Monread Nursing home. She is to meet Justin Donavan and Richard Thake from HCC to discuss the proposal and British Schools for the Future endorses… Two hundred houses will be built with medium to low density together with 10% affordable homes. If the state takes over the funding no houses will be required. Mrs Pomerance has spoken to Henry Cob bold and he has given a commitment for the land.
The 60 acres to be developed will generate £36M at £600,000 per acre. The school would reduce traffic through the village, with children cycling or walking to school. The current timescale is 5 years. The website is weneedaschool.org.
2. HGV Traffic, Old Knebworth Lane
Councillor Brindley, chairman of JMP, informed the Council that a resident had complained about the HGC traffic using Old Knebworth Lane. The general consensus was that it is not suitable for HGV traffic. A TRO to restrict traffic to 7.5 tonne would cost £4000. NHDC is proposing to erect signs stating it is not suitable for HGV’s at a cost of £1000., without a TRO, to try to prevent large vehicles accidentally using the Lane
There is no height restriction in Old Knebworth Lane. It was suggested that cars drive too fast on the Lane and perhaps additional signage regarding the sharp bens might be useful. Cllr Brindley felt that the signs would be overgrown and not visible. The
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alternative route for traffic would be Park Lane which would result in a higher volume of traffic through the village. The cost would be borne by NHDC and the JMP.
There was a request for HCC to improve the sight lines, footpath s and pavements for pedestrians.
Cllr Brindley requested a letter from the Parish Council stating that it had no objection to the proposed signage.
3. Approval of Parish Council Minutes
It was proposed by Mr Titmarsh, seconded by Mrs Smith and
RESOLVED “that the Minutes of the Annual Meeting of the Parish Council, held on 13 May 2009, be approved and signed.
Unanimously agreed.
4. The Council Noted the Minutes of the Committee Meetings
4.1 Minutes of the Meeting of the Recreation Grounds Committee held on 27 May 2009.
4.2 Minutes of the Meeting of the Village Hall Committee held on 10 June 2009
4.3 Minutes of the Meeting of the Finance and General Purposes Committee held on 10 June 2009
4.4 Minutes of the Meetings of the Planning and Environment Committee held on 8 June 2008
5. Inspection of Schedule of Deeds and Documents.
Mr Titmarsh reported that he had inspected the deeds and all were in order. The recreation ground has been registered and therefore 18 documents are for information only.
Proposed by Mr Smith, seconded by Mr Gilmore and
RESOLVED that “the Council should register the Village hall and King George Vth Playing Fields.”
Agreed.
6. Review of Council Regulations
Standing orders, Terms of Reference, Financial Regulations, Financial risk assessment, Internal Audit and Health and Safety play are to be reviewed by the next Parish Council meeting.
7. HCC Lease
HCC has revised the lease but Mr Piper has returned it for further revision.
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8. Registration of Land
The recreation ground has been registered however the right of access has been omitted and a footpath does not extend to the rear of the verge. The clerk has written to the Land Registry requesting amendment to the file. A response is awaited.
9. Council Stationery
Triographics had produced several version of letter heading and the Council agreed on one. The clerk is to request a slightly bolder version.
10. Village Website
The website is still being run by Mrs Weaver. The volunteer has not been able to take over yet. An interim person is to review the website with Mrs Weaver with a view to updating the information.
11. Youth Project
There was debate about the youth project giving something back to the community since it benefits from free use of the pavilion. The clerk is to contact the Youth Project to pose them with the challenge.
12. Council Bank Accounts
Telephone and online baking has been requested. Both forms of banking can now be restricted to transfers within Parish Council accounts only and not to third parties.
The Council agreed to open a ‘Knebworth Village Hall’ account to apply for a grassroots fund.
13 S106 Funding
S106 funding is being collected by NHDC but it is unclear how the funds are to be used. The topic was requested to be added to the Rural Summit agenda however it had not been included. Mr Bantick is to raise it at the summit.
14. Accounts for Payment
It was proposed by Mr Titmarsh and seconded by Mrs Smith and
RESOLVED “that the list of accounts paid during Accounts Period 2 2009/10 be approved.
Agreed.
Mr Titmarsh reported that he had agreed the monthly bank reconciliations to 31 May 2009.
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15. Any Other Urgent Business
15.1 Junior School Meeting
Mr Bantick is to attend a meeting to discuss allocation of secondary school places for children leaving Knebworth JMI..
15.2 Woolmer Green Parish Council
The chairman has been invited to celebrate the success of Woolmer Green PC in the business category of eh Village f the Year competition. He is unable to attend. Mr Hall is to go instead.
15.3 Woodland Management t Park Lane
Dr Fothergill apprised the council on the clearance being undertaken in the private wood next to Park Lane. Mrs Pateman stated that it is management t of ancient woodland; trees are cut down and coppiced.
15.4 Parking
Another parking meeting is to be held 22 July after completion of a business survey.
15.5 Picture, Knebworth Twinning Association
Mr Hall asked the council if a picture presented by Chatellion en plage could be hung in the committee room. The council gave its permission.
15.6 Next Meeting
The next meeting is to be held on Wednesday 8 October at 8.00 pm.
There being no other business the meeting closed at 10.00 p.m.
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